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Why We Need A Unity Ticket | 272 comments (272 topical)
Beg to differ (none / 0) (#42)
by Chimster on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 01:03:27 PM EST
If nothing else, the marquee value and unifying perception of this ticket will propel them to the nomination. No one on Obama blogs will like this. They'll fight it. But they're wasting their time. This combo ticket will put a dem in the White House in 2008.

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Women, who are 60% of the Dems (5.00 / 7) (#143)
by echinopsia on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 01:52:22 PM EST
are not going to be happy that once again the older, more experienced, more accomplished, harder-working woman has to step aside for the new guy.

Pick the group you want to p*ss off more. 60% or 20%.

Then add Hispanics to the 60%.

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80% of 20% (5.00 / 1) (#189)
by echinopsia on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 02:34:17 PM EST
Is less than 55% of 60%.

Plus Hispanics.

Do the math.

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Now it's silly tit-for-tat (5.00 / 1) (#272)
by echinopsia on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 03:44:29 PM EST
Why? Because I proved you were wrong to think that Clinton's presumed loss of AA votes is more than offset by Obama's loss of women's votes?

If you make an easily rebutted statement, don't call it silly tit-for-tat when someone soundly rebuts it, then try to change the subject.

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"Neither candidate can win (5.00 / 1) (#190)
by Chimster on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 02:34:20 PM EST
in November if those groups don't support them." This is exactly why the unity ticket idea will work. Supporters get their person. You need to look way ahead. We're in primary season now. The public's memory is short. Wounds heal over time. New scandals will arive. Heck, there may be stuff that makes the Wright incident look like a walk in the park.

A different VP would give access to a whole new vetting process. These two frontrunners are going through the vetting now. We don't need a newbie to start raking through the coals all over again.

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But those two groups overlap (none / 0) (#232)
by Joan in VA on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 03:10:33 PM EST
which should be to her benefit.

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Try this.. (5.00 / 2) (#197)
by waldenpond on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 02:41:46 PM EST
"Senator Obama, you previously characterized your running mate as a vicious liar who will do anything to win, why are you running on the same ticket?"

Here's Obama.... Clinton has stated that campaign supporters get overly passionate, I agree. Both campaigns have stumbled and we are stronger for it.  We can use the talents and energy of both campaigns to defeat the Repubs in Nov.  I have gotten to know Clinton extremely well throughout this campaign. She is experienced, she knows what this country needs, we agree on the issues and she has demonstrated she has the capacity to weather an incredibly rough campaign and media attacks.  Everyone exaggerates, heck I exaggerated when I blah, blah, blah.

"Senator Clinton, you spent months making the argument that Senator Obama is an empty suit with untold skeletons in his closet.  Why should the American people be comfortable with him when you aren't?"

Here's Clinton.... (her argument for Obama as VP fits better here)  Obama might be inexperienced in the eyes of some (a fact I disagree with on some important issues), but he has developed one important skill.. learning how to run a tough campaign (woohoo.) Obama has a new energy and freshness to bring to politics.  Together we can build a team to take this country in a new direction.  The Repubs will attack my running mate on some issues that we are very familiar to us all.  I have expressed my opinion on the matter and will not address it again.  Some relationships are private no matter how much the Repubs would like to believe otherwise (referencing Bill.) I'm sure they will focus on personal attacks, but we will focus on the issues affecting the American people... blah, blah, blah.

Heck, if they can't spin this, neither one of them deserves to be President.  If they can't let by-gones be by-gones and work with another Dem, nothing is going to get done.


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Nope, Obama "Tonya Harding'd" Bill (5.00 / 1) (#279)
by Cream City on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 03:51:15 PM EST
at the least, losing a Dem ticket with Obama on it the number-one votegetter we've got.  Bill can't get out there now for a ticket with an Obama on it, because Obama cut him off at the knees with the label of racism.

And I don't want to hear that Obama didn't say it.  His campaign co-chair said it.  The public recalls it, and rightly so, as Obama saying it.  He didn't reject it -- and from the start in Iowa, he had Michelle making it about race, and then Oprah, and then AA members of the media as soon as Hillary Clinton won one, etc.

Nor do I want to see four or more years of Obama having all sorts of surrogates attack anyone in his path but letting him claim he's clean.  He's not Teflon, and it sticks to him.

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That would seem to be the case (none / 0) (#282)
by MKS on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 04:02:20 PM EST
I do think, however,  BTD is right--a unity ticket appears to be the only way the Dems have any chance of beating St. John the McCain.

And since the unity ticket seems improbable.....

McCain will do NOTHING as President.  The Economy is bad?  Well, guess what America, you're screwed.  Iraq is bad, America is screwed there too.  He looked so old with Nancy Reagan yesterday...

Get off my G-D grass!  That should be St. John's campaign motto.

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The easy answer (none / 0) (#238)
by Chisoxy on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 03:18:25 PM EST
to each of those questions is: Well half the country believes they are trustworthy/ready to be president, who am I to say otherwise? This ticket is representative of the will of the people.

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Why We Need A Unity Ticket | 272 comments (272 topical)

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