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McCain is experienced but he says terribly inacurate and wrong-headed things all the time.  Cheney is REALLY experienced, and that is a big part of his problem.  Experience is a non-issue for me.  I wonder what the percentage breakdown is between people who believed like your friends before Hillary started talking experience, and after.  Maybe she is just saying what everyone was already thinking, but I can't imagine that all of those people were suspicious of Obama at the beginning.

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I don't know how they felt at the beginning (5.00 / 1) (#101)
by stillife on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 04:06:52 PM EST
but I know how I felt.  I watched every single d**n debate and I was awed by Hillary's command of the facts and performance under pressure. Those are the qualities I want in my President. Obama, OTOH, was fairly underwhelming in the debates.  

After 8 years of Republican rule, I want a fighter in the White House.  The more the media, the Blogger Boyz and the Obama campaign attack Hillary, the more convinced I become that she is that person.  She's a living example of grace under fire.

I guess I'm just a pragmatist at heart.  I was truly impressed when I went to see Hillary speak at Town Hall in NYC, and she said that every day she tries to get something done, to advance some issue that's important to her, no matter how small.  Speeches are great.  I understand that many people (including my husband, who isn't a citizen and can't vote - too bad!) feel that Obama's "inspirational" message will get this country out of the mess we're in now.  

I want a candidate who can walk the walk, not just talk the talk.  

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I was (5.00 / 3) (#104)
by waldenpond on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 06:14:45 PM EST
surprised when I found I was supporting Clinton. Six months ago I did a frigging spreadsheet on issues and spent a couple of weeks slogging through congress.org and recording the votes.  I found out the positions and who was on the campaigns and watched all the debates.  I took notes on the debates, who actually answered and how they answered and who was closest on some of the positions I want movement on.  The woman can debate.  I'm tired of hearing my support is low knowledge.

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*ditto* (none / 0) (#110)
by Rainsong on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 04:46:40 AM EST
I dont know that I call it "experience" any more - to me its "competence".

Hillary has some negatives and faults, but she also has 35+ years of proven positives to her credit, that outweigh the screw-ups by a fairly large margin.

Just check her wikipedia entry (thin and incomplete as wikipedia often is) for a resume that is a lifetime's worth of solid achievements, from way before she even met Bill.

Obama has a thin record, but I dont hold that against him as 'lack of experience'.

But its because that thin record has a sizeable percentage of negatives, absences, and is littered with shady friends and associates that demonstrate lack of 'competence', as well as lack of 'judgement' to me.

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