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That can of worms... (none / 0) (#55)
by gmo on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:01:20 PM EST
...was opened a long time ago.   If we're going to have a continuing dialogue on race in this country, then this is simply part of it.  So how can Obama (or anyone) credibly object to her voicing an opinion?  

I think she deftly answered the question put to her, and appropriately punted the follow-ups.  

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To Say (none / 0) (#64)
by squeaky on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:06:17 PM EST
Something like, 'well, this is not something I am going to get into. Obama's relationship with his pastor is his business, and I am not in a position to judge it.'

Would have scored her points across the board. That does not exclude her talking about racism in america in a different context.

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There is no other context (5.00 / 8) (#72)
by Edgar08 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:09:34 PM EST
The Clinton Camp has been banned from addressing race in American in any context at all.

A Clinton Aid can't even order black coffee without Olbermann having a hissy fit.


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You Underestimate (none / 0) (#84)
by squeaky on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:17:04 PM EST
HRC and are doing her a great disservice to suggest that she is limited in this regard. To think that she does not have the personal experience, imagination and talent, to address the long festering wound of racism in America outside of the narrow context of Obama/Wright, is nonsense imo. We all own it and it is  much bigger than the campaign.

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Whenever they address it (5.00 / 1) (#96)
by Edgar08 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:24:24 PM EST
They are blamed for addressing it.

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That doesn't pass the giggle test. (none / 0) (#100)
by zyx on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:25:24 PM EST
HRC is gagged on the race issue.  Period.  Obama owns it.  The Clintons are "typical white people" and nothing more.  The end.

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Obama Did Not q (none / 0) (#166)
by squeaky on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:52:51 PM EST
Choose to make this an issue, except in that he did not disavow Rev. Wright before the campaign. And he does not have the luxury to say it is none of anyones business as HRC could do.

And being oblivious to the religion issue is a mistake imo. It would be fine to say that were it not such a huge force in mainstream politics. The fact that HRC is a top rank member of the Fellowship, speaks volumes and is far from a minor detail in her political war chest, imo.  

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That's basically what she was saying (none / 0) (#77)
by nycstray on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:14:49 PM EST
it wasn't her place to comment, speak to him, he gave a good/important speech, talk to him etc.

Didn't really score her much in the way of points and the issue has taken away press from her speeches on ISSUES (his also) etc. She may have nipped it here, but the Obama campaign has decided to exploit.

Odd, some AAs were getting uncomfortable with his lack of speaking out on Imus, and then when he did, he said he should be fired . . . if they keep playing with this story, this may come up again, louder.

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No judgement (none / 0) (#80)
by Chimster on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:16:05 PM EST
on this matter equals no headlines in the news. She gave her judgement, and it is now news again. If she had kept going along the "high road", no one would have noticed. I'm sure there will be times where her fooot gets stuck in her mouth, but this was not one of them.

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It wasn't a judgment (none / 0) (#89)
by nycstray on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:21:27 PM EST
She was asked what she would do, not what she thought of his handling of it.

So she changed the conversation. What do you think Richardson was doing on Friday?

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It was her judgment (none / 0) (#110)
by Chimster on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:30:55 PM EST
that told her to make make no comment up until this point. It was her judgment that told her to tell the news exactly what she thought of his handling of it. I think she used good judgement this time around.

You're right about Richardson.

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It was good judgement, IMHO (none / 0) (#126)
by americanincanada on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:36:13 PM EST
And if you watch the video you see how she said it, what the question was and everything else. it was a good answer and an answer her base was probably thinking.

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Obama Misspoke (none / 0) (#201)
by Athena on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:12:18 PM EST
Why wasn't the press worked up over the fact that Obama misspoke when he claimed to have never heard inflammatory statements by Wright?

Selective outrage, indeed.

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Except... (none / 0) (#154)
by gmo on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:48:15 PM EST
...imo, that's what Obama should have said himself in the first place.  

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But, if she did that, she'd be playing along with (none / 0) (#227)
by derridog on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:30:20 PM EST
Obama's meme that there isn't anything there - nothing to see --just an old friend and mentor who happens to be a kindly old racist, who humps the lecturn in church when speaking of the Clintons.

I think she did the right thing. She didn't bring it up, it was a direct question and she didn't go for overkill.  This way, the subject is back in the news and that sound byte will be playing over and over. I think it was smart.

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What part of her statement had anything (none / 0) (#151)
by RLMcCauley on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 05:46:59 PM EST
to do with the discussion of race in America?

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