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Clinton On Wright | 264 comments (264 topical)
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by CognitiveDissonance on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:05:56 PM EST
She's been a devout methodist all her life. I really don't think you're going to find a Rev. Wright in the Methodist church.


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That's it? (none / 0) (#192)
by RLMcCauley on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:07:55 PM EST
Her religious ties are far more interesting than that.

Have a look. A book is coming out in May.  

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich
http://www.toobeautiful.org/lat_020927.html
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525
http://www.alternet.org/story/16167/?page=1
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200611/green-hillary
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html

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Don't forget Barbara Ehrenreich (none / 0) (#219)
by wasabi on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:24:18 PM EST
Where she connected Clinton to Hitler.

"The Family's most visible activity is its blandly innocuous National Prayer Breakfast, held every February in Washington. But almost all its real work goes on behind the scenes -- knitting together international networks of rightwing leaders, most of them ostensibly Christian. In the 1940s, The Family  reached out to former and not-so-former Nazis, and its fascination with that exemplary leader, Adolph Hitler, has continued, along with ties to a whole bestiary of murderous thugs."

What's Clinton's sin here?  Oh yeah.  She attends weekly prayer breakfasts and that puts her right into the "inner circle".

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Interestingly Coe has claimed that (none / 0) (#244)
by RLMcCauley on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:55:32 PM EST
they influenced Clinton on right-wing legislation that she supported or sponsored. I don't know if that's true or not.

However, what's also interesting is that this is one thing that won't hurt her at all in the GE as the people who are part of it are right-wingers.

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She goes to prayer breakfasts (none / 0) (#243)
by zyx on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:54:52 PM EST
Honestly, you don't think that the Nazi connection is bandied about at Congressional Prayer breakfasts?  This is gotcha crap.  I skimmed the Ehrenreich hit piece.  Not impressed.  I pulled up at the Harper's piece in your list.  Didn't mention Clinton.  I just read the Mother Jones piece (quickly).  Yeah, so she meets with Brownback and now he likes her better than he did.  Yeah, she opposes flag-burning, which I think is dumb.  She also opposes unlimited access of minors to crap video games, which my 22-year-old son thinks is dumb.  I had a little argument with him about that and suggested that someday when he has minor children he might feel a little differently.  He huffed that he is a strong believer in the Constitution and its amendments and all.  I huffed right back that minors don't enjoy the full protections of the Constitution and does he realize maybe there is a reason why children don't get to vote, maybe?

I think "The Family" is a gotcha red herring.  But that is what we do, I guess--throw fish.  

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If you say so. Didn't know that right-wing (none / 0) (#247)
by RLMcCauley on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:02:08 PM EST
religious nuts who influence our policies were acceptable to Democrats but I guess I was wrong. Learn something new about my party everyday.

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Hmmmm. (5.00 / 1) (#251)
by Dr Molly on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:19:42 PM EST
Yes, and I didn't know that democrats were so non-reality-based that they are willing to make excuses for a pastor misinforming his flock about HIV AIDS by preaching that a government-made virus was introduced intentionally for the purpose of black genocide. I kind of thought democrats were for medical and scientific literacy -- you know, like the MEDICAL FACT that HIV AIDS evolved from a closely related immunodeficiency virus prevalent in non-human primates. How insulting to African Americans that this crap is peddled to them. How disappointing that people give Rev. Wright a pass on it. Dispensing this kind of misinformation does nothing to help with treating and curing AIDS and please remember that AA's suffer disproportionately from the disease.

And, in anticipation of the usual rejoinder, please don't try to convince me that historical events such as Tuskegee justify deliberately lying to the people in your pews.

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Heh. Bill Cosby said the same thing. (none / 0) (#257)
by RLMcCauley on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:30:22 PM EST
I didn't see anyone lose their mind then. The government experimented on black people in Tuskeegee and let murderous terrorists sell crack on our streets - to black people - and then create racist laws to put them in jail longer than whites. Cosby and Wright are wrong about HIV but don't think the paranoia didn't come from somewhere.

Wright isn't a scientist so saying it's a deliberate lie is baseless. He can be wrong but there's no way for you to know if he's lying.

However, from what you said I have to conclude that you're also very disturbed by Clinton's right-wing religious guides then since we know they hate science and reality.

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Wright is too smart to say dumb things (5.00 / 1) (#258)
by Dr Molly on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:36:49 PM EST
I agree with your last paragraph - stupidity is stupidity whereever it is. Same for bigotry. Same for fundamentalism. Etc.

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Cosby has a PhD. (none / 0) (#259)
by RLMcCauley on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:39:02 PM EST
I think he's probably not dumb either but he said it as well.

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And a friend of Billy Graham (none / 0) (#203)
by felizarte on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:14:25 PM EST
This is one area which can stand the closest scrutiny according to earlier articles before she announced her candidacy.  I don't have the links but I believe her pastor since high school was interviewed.  Perhaps someone else can did this out.

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Clinton On Wright | 264 comments (264 topical)

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