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Endorsing The Tweety Solution For MI/FL | 160 comments (160 topical)

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Obama has been the one to frame the pledged (5.00 / 5) (#3)
by tandem5 on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 07:05:15 PM EST
delegate count as "the will." If anybody is against the national popular vote metric its Obama.

agreed (5.00 / 2) (#10)
by heineken1717 on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 07:11:08 PM EST
Obama loves that Hillary won New Hampshire, Nevada, and Texas, but didn't win the delegates. Obama loves that his Idaho win cancelled out Hillary's New Jersey win. The delegates go against the will of the people, which is perfect for him since his bubble has burst and his campaign is crashing down.

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And winning Idaho in November (none / 0) (#141)
by shoephone on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 09:58:07 PM EST
is such a shoo-in for the Democrats.

NOT.

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Look at the numbers... (none / 0) (#175)
by ROK on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 02:31:42 AM EST
With FL and MI as is, he is still winning the popular vote.

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I don't see how that fact impacts (none / 0) (#181)
by tandem5 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 03:25:10 PM EST
the truth of my original comment.

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Really? (none / 0) (#182)
by ROK on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 08:18:13 PM EST
Obama might be framing the del count as the "will", but when he's winning the popular vote as well (and probably will hold it) it simply does not matter how he's framing it.

So, he has the popular vote and delegate count. What does Hillary have that gives her the right to claim that she has that "will"?

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but again I don't understand how that impacts my (none / 0) (#183)
by tandem5 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 08:47:39 PM EST
original comment - especially now that you admit the possibility that it is true that he "might be framing the del count as the 'will'."

It does matter how he is framing it when it comes to the context of the topic of the larger thread which is that Chris Matthews assumed that Clinton and not Obama would be opposed to solely considering the popular vote total in determining the nomination. It may be ultimately irrelevant, as you point out, in the end, but it doesn't change the inherent strategies that each candidate has taken in proving their claim to the nomination and my point of contention was simply that Matthews essentially assigned the wrong strategy to the wrong candidate.

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