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have you looked at a census lately? (none / 0) (#61)
by Kathy on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 09:00:26 PM EST
Because Clinton's demographics stack a lot higher than Obama's.

As for the political machines, are you familiar with the one running Chicago?  How about John Kerry's and Ted Kennedy's?

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Thats true but why do people always (none / 0) (#90)
by Salt on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 09:25:31 PM EST
mention Obama growth areas what missing in that story Ms Pelosi for example seems to belive Obama brings the growth?

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Just for the record (none / 0) (#102)
by gyrfalcon on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 09:34:50 PM EST
there is no "Kennedy machine" in Mass., nor is there a "Kerry machine."  Neither guy has had significant opposition, so no need to have one. (Kennedy did have a tough race with Romney way back when, but the fact that it was tough actually underlines the fact that he had and still has no machine.)

Mass. voters are pretty notorious for making up their own minds on stuff, and they've been badly bummed by their own post-election experience with an inspirational reformer who ran on a somewhat vague platform.  Deval Patrick's endorsement of Obama almost certainly hurt him more than helped him in Mass.

(speaking as a recent ex-Massachusettsian, if I can figure out how to spell it...)


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I meant their mailing lists (none / 0) (#106)
by Kathy on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 09:44:31 PM EST
and fundraiser lists.  I got six billion mailers from each of them.  I wish I was exaggerating.  They might not need MA, but they have friends with deep pockets.

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As someone from Mass.... (none / 0) (#104)
by CST on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 09:37:58 PM EST
Not much of a political machine for Kennedy or Kerry.  They both always get elected, and then we kinda forget about them and expect them to do their jobs as liberals in the senate, they have never really had to campaign here.  Honestly, I think local politicians (mayors, etc...) have much more "muscle" here, and they went pretty strongly for Clinton.

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