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A Skeptical Progressive Examines Obama's Record, Concludes " Count Me Out" | 205 comments (205 topical)
he's as progressive as anyone else in the race (none / 0) (#198)
by RLMcCauley on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 10:30:32 AM EST
except Nader. the difference of course is that he is inclusive and inspirational, runs a bottom-up organization, and appears to respect and viewpoints enough that we can actually have a conversation and instead of shouting match.

That might be nice for a change.

I originally supported Edwards, but now throw my support to Obama for various reasons, but me thinking he's a left winger is not one of them.

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Fair point (none / 0) (#207)
by Marvin42 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 10:44:41 AM EST
Only difference I have on this is that I don't for a second believe:

a) he truly is like what he represents himself in his campaign (change, different, etc), but more importantly

b) if he really thinks he can "change the tone," "work with the other side," then I think he is sadly mistaken, because the other side doesn't want to work with him.

Which really is the main point why I back Sen Clinton.

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Eh (none / 0) (#219)
by RLMcCauley on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 10:59:23 AM EST
I doubt a man who was chosen his path is anything less than what he is representing to us.  He may not be successful but I have no reason to doubt that he believes what he says.  I have friends who work in public interest law who could've had lucrative careers at big firms and not one of them is doing it because they're some sort of undercover conservative prepping for a stealh political career.

Well the other side might not want to work with him, though he has worked with right-wingers on some things, but they also don't want to with Senator Clinton and I think they'll obstruct her out of spite.

Not her fault but I believe that's what would happen.

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Yep, that's the point (none / 0) (#209)
by JJE on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 10:46:28 AM EST
Obama isn't as progressive as Gonzales would like.  Neither is Hillary.  Anyone who doesn't think the workers should seize the means of production is insufficiently progressive for Matt Gonzales.

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Americana is a big country (none / 0) (#228)
by RLMcCauley on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 11:17:16 AM EST
is a real diversity of.  Successful politicians will never be able to go real left-wing on us.  It's much easier to go right wing because right wing is supported by the corporate leaders of the nation.

For example, corporate media shill Russert will go out of his way to play 6° of separation with Obama & Farrakhan but it would be very unlikely that he would do the sameto McCain regarding his connection to Reverend Hagee, who is just as radical as Farrakhan.

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A Skeptical Progressive Examines Obama's Record, Concludes " Count Me Out" | 205 comments (205 topical)

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