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The media would cover Rezko (5.00 / 1) (#3)
by oculus on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:47:47 AM EST
irrespective of whether NYT published a story about McCain's campaign team's fretting about the lobbyist hanging around McCain.  

As I recall (none / 0) (#5)
by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:48:32 AM EST
You have been complaining that they have NOT been covering the story.

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Incorrect. (none / 0) (#17)
by oculus on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:55:02 AM EST
Chicago Sun-Times, Chicago Tribune, L.A. Times, have covered Rezko relationship w/Obama, and Rezko's bail revocation.  I expect they will also cover Rezko's federal trial.  

In my opinion, Rezko's relationship w/Obama will be an issue in the GE and I really don't understand why you and J are so adamant it won't be. The reason I think it will be an issue is because candidate Obama claims to be a new and different type of politician, one who doesn't dirty his hands by dealing with D.C. lobbyists, etc., and who, although he is a U.S. Senator endorsed by Ted Kennedy et al. is not part of the Washington establishment he wants to displace.  

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Well (none / 0) (#21)
by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:57:21 AM EST
That does not answer my question. Were you or were you not complaining about the level of coverage of Rezko?

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No. I've been "complaining" (none / 0) (#25)
by oculus on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:59:26 AM EST
that you and J are so adamanantly dismissive of Obama/Rezko relationship being an issue in the GE.

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So you felt it was being covered adequately (none / 0) (#26)
by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 11:00:23 AM EST
by the Media.

I stand corrected.

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you just did it again (none / 0) (#49)
by demschmem on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 12:28:32 PM EST
thats not what they said.  why do you feel the need to twist things?

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Do you mind? (none / 0) (#58)
by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 01:22:00 PM EST
Oculus is well capable of speaking for herself.

I think you actually will not care for her views on Rezko BTW.

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While you're here, how about (none / 0) (#59)
by oculus on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 01:24:11 PM EST
requesting the Obama campaign e mail and, if you get it from the commenter, adding the entire text to the Guardian post?  Thanks.

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i wasn't speaking for oculus (none / 0) (#65)
by demschmem on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 03:01:39 PM EST
i was pointing out another example of your poor logic.  when someone disagrees with you, you pounce on tertiary points and dice words (often inaccurately as demonstrated here) seemingly to shame them - an age old argumentative technique.  you then spice them with closing remarks like, 'i expect this of you.'  i suspect this doesn't cross the official line of your censoring policy, but it distracts from the more interesting discussions that take place here and is a disservice to your posts.  

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I am proud to say I'm (none / 0) (#66)
by oculus on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 03:05:18 PM EST
not all that worried; in the past, yes; but now, no.

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I don't understand this logic (none / 0) (#61)
by Tano on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 02:16:07 PM EST
In your opinion, Rezko will be an issue because Obama claims to be a new type of pol, one with clean hands.

As far as I can see, Obama has done nothing to dirty his hands.

So why, exactly, will this be an issue?

It seems downright impossible for a politician to make it all the way to the WH without encountering people along the way who turn out to be crooked. That says nothing about the pol, but is merely a comment about the quality of people who litter the political landscape.

It certainly is appropriate to ask questions about relationships with people who turn out to be crooked, but without any bad answers, the story dies. What are you seeing here that would keep this alive?

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To me, the house deal doesn't (none / 0) (#67)
by oculus on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 03:14:14 PM EST
pass the smell test, most likely because my very own Congress person, due to redistricting,, becamse none other than Randy "Duke" Cunningham. Senator Obama concedes entering into the house transaction with Ms. Rezko purchasing the adjacent property was a mistake in judgment on his part, probably because Mr. Rezko was under investigation at the time.  Also, Obama's heart doesn't seem to have been in the right place continuing his assoc. with Mr. Rezko after the housing Rezko's company redeveloped and managed turned out to be defective and the heat was turned off due to Rezko's purported lack of money, yet Rezko kept making contributions, including to Obama. Many of the properties were foreclosed on or bankruptcy declared.

The evidence in Rezko's pending federal trial should have nothing to do with Obama, but could include testimony or evidence pertinent to Obama's relationship w/Rezko.    
 

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