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Someone Get Obama a History Book (4.00 / 1) (#73)
by BDB on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 09:56:00 PM EST
Obama just claimed Americans were united 40 years ago.  Has he ever read a history book?  Because the 1960 election wasn't exactly a bipartisan love-in and neither was 1964 so I don't know what he's talking about (I'd ask what he was smoking, but I know that would be racist).    And he said in the early 1960s Americans were united in believing they can solve the civil rights problems.  Then I guess MLK didn't really have to do much since everyone was already united.  WTF?

he sure needs (none / 0) (#75)
by athyrio on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 09:59:02 PM EST
a history book because I graduated from high school in 1963 and remember the strife well...Geezzzzz....

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Please supply a link (none / 0) (#77)
by phat on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:07:03 PM EST
Wow.

That would be one of the stupidest things I've heard from a Democratic candidate in a long time, if he actually said it.

He didn't actually say that, did he?

phat

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1967? 1967??!! Whaaaaa?! (none / 0) (#79)
by Cream City on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:21:34 PM EST
His reading list can start with that little-known governmental document, the Kerner Commission Report! on the urban riots of . . . 1967, 40 years ago.

The report that declared us not one but two nations, separate and unequal.

Darn that history, it just wasn't, y'know, unified.

And for pity's sake, his undergrad degree is from Columbia, which has a great history department.  What was he taking classes in, "human kinetics"?

Ohhhhh, this is bad, just very bad.  Those who do not know their past are destined to . . . etc.


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And now that it's 2008, let's fondly remember 1968 (none / 0) (#81)
by Cream City on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:24:54 PM EST
. . . when Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr., were assassinated.

Well, those events were unifying, in a way -- but not a way I ever want to endure again.

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He didn't say exactly 40 years (none / 0) (#82)
by BDB on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:16:27 PM EST
He was clearly referring to the early 1960s.  Apparently he wants to go back to the way everyone got along before the "excesses of the 1960s and 1970s" (no he didn't say it that way).  As if that's possible or even desirable.  

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i think it rather odd that an african american (none / 0) (#83)
by hellothere on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:36:11 PM EST
would want to go back to the 1950s. that is before the civil rights movement and there was such disparity then. i am writing this in a literal way just to show how illogical and downright silly obama's comment is.

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Early '60s -- Birmingham bombing and (none / 0) (#84)
by Cream City on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:02:41 AM EST
killing of four innocent girls in a church in 1963 . . . after Bull O'Connor and his dogs and firehoses . . . after KKK also castrated a young AA man just walking down a street there . . . governors at schoolhouse doors refusing to abide by Supreme Court decisions to desegregate . . . James Meredith, Vivian Malone, and others refused access to campuses, too . . . and that was just a few fine moments in just the South.  I was in the North and remember the two nations, separate and unequal there, too.

Not a time of unity -- even before the JFK assassination.  Even the 1960 campaign exposed the deep divisions in this nation over race and religion.  Disunity still, sadly, with us today.


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Seriously...this primary (none / 0) (#80)
by oldpro on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:23:52 PM EST
is starting to feel like '68.  Will it even be worth having when all is said and done?

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