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Does anyone disagree with the statement (1.00 / 1) (#5)
by Green26 on Thu Aug 16, 2007 at 09:23:08 AM EST
that the war can't be won "solely" by military means? I think most people figured that out long ago. Success in Iraq also takes assistance from the Iraqi politicians and people, help from neighboring countries, diplomacy, reconstruction, etc. As for the above statement on Iraqi reconstruction, there is and has been considerable reconstruction--just not nearly enough. Little of the progress or successes get brought to the forefront by the media. If you interested, there's a website (rebuilding-iraq.net), which has summaries of projects and links to reports.

Our idea of what constitutes (5.00 / 1) (#6)
by Militarytracy on Thu Aug 16, 2007 at 09:43:16 AM EST
a government doesn't jibe with the Iraqi notion of what constitutes a government.  The Iraqi people aren't all that "national", they are more tribal in their relations with each other.  The people in charge of this mess don't understand the Iraqi people and they really don't want to understand them, they just want to shove their brand of government down Iraq's throat and then get that oil pumping again.  Iraq was precariously perched upon a peace under Saddam.  We destroyed that and we also destroyed the functional social fabric of their society that the little people had built.  Our first years in country we imprisoned people simply for being Baathist, we imprisoned people who we thought COULD have information that we wanted and if that didn't work we imprisoned their families...... we tortured and murdered many innocents.  I have no nice way of saying this but no matter how pretty you frost a $hitcake, when you cut into it it still isn't edible.  Frosting will not make Iraq what we want it to be and it won't make it what the Iraqi people need it to be.  What we have done to Iraq trying to force it to be what we want it to be is a nightmare.  Something far different than America constructing Iraq into anything must happen now.  And if we ever want the Iraqi people to ever respect us we have to place our leaders on trial that lied us into the war, they are war criminals but that won't happen so Iraq as a whole will never respect us in any fashion and if they did they would all need therapy for their mental and emotional suppression!

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Asked and answered (5.00 / 1) (#10)
by Sailor on Thu Aug 16, 2007 at 11:03:00 AM EST
by Sailor on Thu Aug 16, 2007 at 10:11:35 AM EST
Which experts believe the war cannot be won militarily?

JCF Admiral Michael Mullen
Chuck Hagel

Gen Petraeus

War Czar Lute

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