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sailor - point by point (1.00 / 0) (#14)
by Gabriel Malor on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 05:16:53 PM EST
ppst, it's called 'freedom'; the last one they have left.

::whisper:: Actually it's not; case in point.

What have they been charged with?

As we've been over before, international law says combatants can be held until the cessation of hostilities. (It also forbids charging POWs for fighting for their country.) Combatants can challenge their detentions at CSRBs and if they think them inadequate they can appeal to the courts.

Did it ever strike you as odd/ironic that bush chose a communist country in which to hold these people?

No, I can't say that it did.

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Dying with dignity (5.00 / 0) (#15)
by Sailor on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 05:32:41 PM EST
The fact that you defend Americans torturing people in a communist country pretty much says it all about you.

AMA, UMA, and the Conventions Against Torture disagree with you, as do I.

p.s. CSRBs are a bushco invention, the GenCons say a neutral body.

p.p.s. The kidnapped folks can't challenge their imprisonment ... except in a secret hearing in which their 'lawyers' can't see the evidence against them and can't tell anyone else about it. And even when found not to be 'terrorists' the decision gets overturned by uhhh, someone, and then they are removed from the csrb and a more bushlike judge is put in their place.

You have a very peculiar definition of freedom.

If only on one point I agree with the folks in GitMo; I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

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Sailor says... (1.00 / 0) (#18)
by jimakaPPJ on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 05:43:01 PM EST
BTW - I find it extremely difficult to believe that the American Medical Association would think it ethical for us to let a prisioner in our care starve themselves to death when we have the means to prevent it.

Pleasde provide some links.

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I provided plenty of links ... (5.00 / 1) (#19)
by Sailor on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 05:59:54 PM EST
... you just have a willfull ignorance and inability to comprehend simple english.

But once again, I give others without your self-imposed disabilities, these 11,000+ articles IRT the AMA being against force feeding.

p.s. Your love of torture and kidnapping has been documented many times, I refuse to respond further to your inhuman fetishes.

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Not that it will help... (1.00 / 0) (#20)
by jimakaPPJ on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 06:39:03 PM EST
I shall have to tell the AMA how disgusted I am with them.

Will their next agenda be mercy killings?

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Let me see... I am against assisting suicide. (1.00 / 0) (#21)
by jimakaPPJ on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 06:49:58 PM EST
You are not.

And you claim to be on the side of the angels??

Heh and wow.

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Wha? (1.00 / 0) (#23)
by Gabriel Malor on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 06:59:45 PM EST
The fact that you defend Americans torturing people in a communist country pretty much says it all about you.

I've never defended torture and consistently written that it is illegal under domestic and international law.

p.s. CSRBs are a bushco invention, the GenCons say a neutral body.

The federal courts disagree so far. If you don't like them, I encourage you to send money to support detainee challenges.

I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

I would rather do neither.

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force feeding is torture (5.00 / 0) (#27)
by Sailor on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 01:12:17 AM EST
you endorse force feeding by bush when it is done in a communist country.

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That's interesting (none / 0) (#16)
by Al on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 05:38:26 PM EST
Now they're combatants under international law.

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Combatants. (none / 0) (#22)
by Gabriel Malor on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 06:56:48 PM EST
Al, they've never not been combatants under international law. You can search in that little box over --> for the many comments I've made on the subject. Or you can always read O'Connor's opinion in Hamdi.

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