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by Sumner on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 11:13:33 AM EST
Picture the Virtual Fence as inevitably expanding out, like a ripple effect, across the entire land, or globe, actually, if you can see that far ahead.

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If you can (1.00 / 0) (#9)
by jimakaPPJ on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 11:29:10 AM EST
Picture a country over run by illegal aliens. A country that can not provide basic services...


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Sounds Like (5.00 / 2) (#11)
by squeaky on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 11:34:14 AM EST
You are talking about vermin not people.

Picture a country over run by illegal aliens.

Another bedwetter fantasy, much like this.

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Actually if you could use a dictionary (5.00 / 1) (#19)
by jimakaPPJ on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 08:25:19 AM EST
you would discover:

illegal

not according to or authorized by law : UNLAWFUL

alien

a person of another family, race, or nation

No charge for the education.

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Over Run? (5.00 / 0) (#20)
by squeaky on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 10:15:27 AM EST
Those are words used for vermin. You have tipped your hand.

And oh yes, people cannot be illegal and aliens are from outer space.

Tell us again how much you love Mexicans.  

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Pardon my laughter. (1.00 / 0) (#21)
by jimakaPPJ on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 12:19:13 PM EST
I don't remember saying I loved anyone. Is that a requirement in your world? One must love a particular nationality?? Well, it isn't in mine.

In my world people are judged on what they do, not their nationality, religion, class or race.

I find your position to be distinctly unliberal. In fact, downright fascist:

a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

And yes, people can be described as illegal aliens, just as they can be described as football players, criminals, race car drivers, reporters and ROF's....among other things..

But I give an E for effort in quoting the standard talking points of the Open Borders crowd.

So, thanks for proving that you are still a smearer:


Posted by Squeaky at September 19, 2005 11:19 PM
Rove never needed proof for his smear machine, why should I.


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Spoken Like A True McCarthyite (5.00 / 0) (#22)
by squeaky on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 01:23:49 PM EST
With Rovian fantasies. And your white supremecist position (Jacksonian via Hiram Evans) is not racist because rather than attacking a racial group (white christians) you are championing them.

The backlash against "alien" groups "infesting" American life after World War I assumed its most virulent form in a revival of the Ku Klux Klan....

.....These are, in the first place, a blend of various peoples of the so-called Nordic race, the race which, with all its faults, has given the world almost the whole of modern civilization. The Klan does not try to represent any people but these. . . ..

link

Hahahahaha

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Squeaky gets caught again.... (1.00 / 0) (#23)
by jimakaPPJ on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 06:05:20 PM EST
I have never quoted, or read, Evans. Based on your desire to look at people as separate groups though, it is apparent that you are very familar with him.

The only comment I ever made that had Evans in it is the following, which shows how dumb and mistaken Evans was when he underestimated the strength of the  American Dream..

Here it is again.

As Hiram W. Evans, the surprisingly articulate Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, wrote in 1926, the old stock American of his time had become

"a stranger in large parts of the land his fathers gave him. Moreover, he is a most unwelcome stranger, one much spit upon, and one to whom even the right to have his own opinions and to work for his own interests is now denied with jeers and revilings. `We must Americanize the Americans,' a distinguished immigrant said recently."

Most progressive, right thinking intellectuals in mid-century America believed that the future of American populism lay in a social democratic movement based on urban immigrants. Social activists like Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger consciously sought to use cultural forms like folk songs to ease the transition from the old individualistic folk world to the collective new one that they believed was the wave of the future; they celebrated unions and other strange, European ideas in down home country twangs so that, in the bitter words of Hiram Evans, "There is a steady flood of alien ideas being spread over the country, always carefully disguised as American."

But then lo and hehold! The KKK leader was proven wrong as Meade notes:

What came next surprised almost everyone. The tables turned, and Evans' Americans "americanized" the immigrants rather than the other way around. In what is still a largely unheralded triumph of the melting pot, Northern immigrants gradually assimilated the values of Jacksonian individualism. Each generation of new Americans was less "social" and more individualistic than the preceding one. American Catholics, once among the world's most orthodox, remained Catholic in religious allegiance but were increasingly individualistic in terms of psychology and behavior ("I respect the Pope, but I have to follow my own conscience"). Ties to the countries of emigration steadily weakened, and the tendency to marry outside the group strengthened.

That's my world, squeaky. You can go march and protest about individuals and individual rights. I won't.

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You Have and Just Did (5.00 / 0) (#24)
by squeaky on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 06:19:31 PM EST
I have never quoted, or read, Evans.

Whoever it is you have been reading, including Mead, has read Evans, because you may as well have been quoting him.

Again a quote very much like your drivel:

These are, in the first place, a blend of various peoples of the so-called Nordic race, the race which, with all its faults, has given the world almost the whole of modern civilization.

The backlash against "alien" groups "infesting" American life after World War I assumed its most virulent form in a revival of the Ku Klux Klan....

Hmmmm here is your version:


Picture a country over run by illegal aliens.


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You Have and Just Did (1.00 / 0) (#25)
by jimakaPPJ on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 07:25:37 PM EST
Quit parsing. I quoted Mead. Who quoted Evans ro show how wrong Evans was.  Vast difference.

And if you don't want to be thought of as an Evans fan, quit trying to project his nasties on someone else.

And yes. If we don't get control of the situation our country will be over run by illegal aliens.

You may take that to the bank.

Why you think opposition to that is bad, I can't really say. But it does match your Open Borders position.

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Evan's In A Nutshell (5.00 / 0) (#26)
by squeaky on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 08:26:09 PM EST
If we don't get control of the situation our country will be over run by illegal aliens.

It is called white supremacy.

It starts when you make statements like not all cultures are equal.

It is a very slippery slope from there.

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If I didn't say, "not all cultures (1.00 / 0) (#27)
by jimakaPPJ on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 09:53:30 PM EST
are equal," I should have.

Our culture is certainly superior to the radical Moslem culture that allows honor killings of female family members, hanging of rape victims for causing their rape, hanging of homosexuals, denying women education, threatening to destroy Israel, and best of all, just to spell it out so amost any dummy can understand, OBL himself saying:

So, the driving-away jihad against the US does not stop with its withdrawal from the Arabian peninsula, but rather it must desist from aggressive intervention against Muslims in the whole world.

Even my cat could figure out that this dude is saying, "Don't F&&^ with us. We want the world."

I just wonder about you not understanding that. I do. I really, really, really do.

BTW - "We" is an inclusive word. Find a dictionary. Look it up. Let me help. Go the section that has "W."

You are the one who wants to do the group identiy thing. You and your pals from Europe.

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Gross (5.00 / 0) (#28)
by squeaky on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 11:39:31 PM EST
ppj and his kind are superior to all, in his mind.

Any races better than you? Oh, I thought so.

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Squeaky still can't understand the word (none / 0) (#29)
by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 10:42:20 AM EST
WE.

Will someone please show him how to use a on line dictionary??

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of course he won't (none / 0) (#30)
by Sailor on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 11:35:16 AM EST
You can go march and protest about individuals and individual rights. I won't.
that's because you don't believe in them.

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Sailor can not keep up... (1.00 / 0) (#32)
by jimakaPPJ on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 09:18:18 AM EST
I wrote:

That's my world, squeaky. You can go march and protest about individuals and individual rights. I won't.

If you protest about something it means you are against it.

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