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No need to wait. (1.00 / 1) (#49)
by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 10:08:22 AM EST
The attacks you speak of are not driven by our presence in the ME, but my our existence as a liberal democracy that reputes many of the main tenets of Islam. I offer:

(Peter Arnett): Mr. Bin Ladin, will the end of the United States' presence in Saudi Arabia, their withdrawal, will that end your call for jihad against the United States and against the US ?

BIN LADIN:... So, the driving-away jihad against the US does not stop with its withdrawal from the Arabian peninsula, but rather it must desist from aggressive intervention against Muslims in the whole world.

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So his aim is not SA, but the world. We can see this again and again in attacks not by improverished, hungry Moslems, fresh from the ME, but by second generation, or ones who arrived in the west at a very early agre, home grown radicals who are middle class. See the tube bombings last year in London. See the attempts to blow up transatlantic commercial airliners fro England to the US. See the Doctors attacks in London and Glasgow using "car bombs." See the conspiracy to attack Ft. Dix and JFK.

These terrorists are driven by teachings that some are taking from their religion. It is said that these are not part of Islam, and that may be true. But it is Moslems that are doing, and trying to do, the harm.

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Bullsh*t, and you know it. (5.00 / 2) (#50)
by Edger on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 10:22:10 AM EST
We're still waiting for your response to Dr. Maryam, ppj...

Avoiding it just makes you look like you're... avoiding it.

Here is again in case your scrolling finger doesn't work.

Dr. Maryam, Iraqi Pediatric Oncologist

Stop telling lies to yourself American. We know that your racist brutal murdering war criminal troops came from your society and reflect its values. we know that because we see how they behave and have to bury their victims. If you are stupid enough to think we feel anything but hatred and contempt for your soldiers and the country that sent them to make war on my people then you are a fool.

As to Saddam bad though he was your country is far worse.

You've repeatedly tried to assure everyone here that you're not a cowardly chickenhawk, ppj.

This is your big chance to buy some integrity, ppj.

It's also your big chance to throw away any remaining integrity you might still have buried inside you by avoiding the question.

Lets see what you're made of, ppj. Or not made of.

How do you respond to Dr. Maryam?

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Osama.... (5.00 / 2) (#51)
by kdog on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 10:50:46 AM EST
is a nut....he speaks for all muslims like George Bush speaks for all Americans...only in his own deranged mind.

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Ye, he is a nut. And very deranged. (none / 0) (#52)
by Edger on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 11:10:50 AM EST
But even in his deranged insanity, he had far more integrity than the cowardly Bush's or the ppj's of the world will ever have.

It by no means excuses him or his insanity, but at least he had the the guts and the integrity to state bluntly his insane intentions and motivations:

The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorised and displaced.
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And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children.


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Nah.... (none / 0) (#54)
by kdog on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 11:48:11 AM EST
If he had integrity, he'd strap a bomb on himself instead of somebody else's kid.

Him and George...they're the same.  No integrity to be found.

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You're right (none / 0) (#55)
by Edger on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 12:13:33 PM EST
I just meant he stated his intentions, crazy as they were. More than I can say for Bush and his supporters....

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I hear that.... (5.00 / 1) (#56)
by kdog on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 12:24:25 PM EST
he is honest about his intentions, just not man enough to the dirty work himself.

Bush can't even admit what this global bloodbath is really all about....

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