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Not war - coalition (5.00 / 2) (#4)
by Alien Abductee on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 10:21:04 PM EST
and it has to be treated as such. Think of the Blue Dogs as making up a completely different party from the Democrats. The risk of losing them as a voting bloc to the Republican side is real at every step. It's what's been elected and has to be dealt with realistically. The politics of coalition are more about constantly riding the wave. Kudos to Pelosi for keeping that fractious governing majority together as well as she has so far. Confrontation is not helpful in maintaining a coaltion - sweeteners are.

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I think Hoyer and the dogs plays her though (5.00 / 2) (#6)
by Militarytracy on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 10:28:52 PM EST
and it could easily be equal playing or the other way around.  Someone once told me I wasn't very smart about tactics when it came to fighting.  That can be remedied but first it has to be addressed that a person doesn't have good fighting tactics or skills.  Pelosi needs to address that.  She needs someone she can trust completely who is good at fight tactics at her side as an aide night and day because the casual conversation can get your head lopped off as well as the debate on the floor when you lack tactics and others understand that you do.

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Actually no it can't (none / 0) (#9)
by Alien Abductee on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 10:58:05 PM EST
it could easily be equal playing or the other way around

They are in the catbird seat, can throw the majority vote whichever way they go, so no.

Having a majority is important, but there must be much more pushing the envelope on more progressive candidates being elected in order for things to change, IMO.

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But we ride under a common brand (5.00 / 2) (#8)
by andgarden on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 10:39:49 PM EST
I think the risk of dissolving the coalition is worth the chance of ending the war. Not all Blue Dogs are the same, after all, and the only important thing is that Pelosi get 218 members on her side. If she can't do that, then her coalition, which was elected to end the war, deserves to fail.

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The risk (5.00 / 1) (#10)
by Alien Abductee on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 11:10:14 PM EST
of losing the BELIEF of it being a governing coalition is the danger. Why do you think the very first thing the WH did was invite the Blue Dogs in for a talk to try to sway them over? Dissolving the coalition can only be a loser. Keeping it together using compromise is making the best of a bad situation. Though progressives aren't likely to get a whole lot of what we want at least Republicans won't have sole control of the agenda.


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Well I don't believe in it (5.00 / 1) (#13)
by andgarden on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 11:39:02 PM EST
This new majority has failed to take steps necessary to end the war. Therefore, the basis upon which it was elected appears false.

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The Blue Dogs (none / 0) (#14)
by Alien Abductee on Mon Jun 25, 2007 at 12:23:14 AM EST
were elected for promising fiscal responsibility and support for the war as I remember.

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