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Slick, Jeralyn (none / 0) (#7)
by Gabriel Malor on Sun May 20, 2007 at 09:56:17 PM EST
First, calling detention centers "camps" is akin to calling federal prisons "camps." The term "detention camps" carries an emotionally and politically charged connotation (which is why pro-illegal activity folks use it, of course). In reality, federal detention centers have a lot more in common with jails than they do any kind of "camp."

Second, opposition to detention centers constitutes nothing more than a knee-jerk response unless such opposition considers whether more detention is needed. If it's true that illegal immigration has increased in the last ten years then it's also true that more detention space may be necessary. Evaluating section 137 therefore turns on a few questions:

(1) Are detention camps necessary at all? (Presumably, folks like Jeralyn would say "no." Those folks can stop reading now and go back to their pipe-dreams.)
(2) Do we have enough detention space now? (If not, does section 137 address the problem?)
(3) Is detention space adequate to protect the due process rights of illegal aliens?

Slick (none / 0) (#8)
by Molly Bloom on Sun May 20, 2007 at 10:04:05 PM EST
First, calling detention centers "camps" is akin to calling federal prisons "camps." The term "detention camps" carries an emotionally and politically charged connotation (which is why pro-illegal activity folks use it, of course).

Are you suggesting JM is "pro-illegal activity"? Talk about slick...


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Wha? (none / 0) (#10)
by Gabriel Malor on Sun May 20, 2007 at 10:17:22 PM EST
Molly, if you've been reading TalkLeft for any length of time at all (and I believe you have) you would know that Jeralyn subscribes to the open-the-border wing of immigration activists. Their encouragement of illegal activities (namely, entry without inspection) is explicitly "pro-illegal activity." There's nothing slick about it.

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Actually (none / 0) (#15)
by Jeralyn on Sun May 20, 2007 at 11:49:40 PM EST
the most minimum security federal prisons are designated "camps" by the Bureau of Prisons.  

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Indeed. (none / 0) (#16)
by Gabriel Malor on Mon May 21, 2007 at 12:30:54 AM EST
They also have no fences, are often referred to as "Camp Cupcakes" where volleyball and softball are common pasttimes. Is that what you oppose when you call immigration detention centers "detention camps" or are you implying something more?

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Addendum: (none / 0) (#17)
by Gabriel Malor on Mon May 21, 2007 at 01:52:39 AM EST
And actually, to be completely honest with you, I didn't know we had designated super-minimum prisons "camps." But you must admit that when you reference immigration "detention camps" you mean something totally different than the "Camp Cupcakes" that have no fences and volleyball courts. Hence, my reference to slickness.

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