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I do agree (5.00 / 1) (#4)
by a gilas girl on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 10:55:35 AM EST
that as conference champs these teams each deserve their "own" chances.  Besides, I'm in favor of anything that keeps down the number of SEC also ran teams in the tournament.

 

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SEC rules (none / 0) (#7)
by Slado on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 11:41:32 AM EST
Period.

UF holds both trophies right now and has a 50/50 shot of continuing to hold those trophies.

The media simply hates giving the SEC it's due (last year it won the NIT, had two teams int he final four and won the NCAA) etc...

UF continually wins the all sports trophies and the SEC was the number 2 rated confrence RPI wise this year behind the ACC by .0003 RPI

If you simply just hate the SEC and don't want to see them in there I can uderstand because I hate the Big Ten for no other reason then their games are horrible to watch.  

As for the play-in game the easy solution is to drop the at large bids from 34 to 33.  

That way we could have left Illinois or Purdue out of the tournament.

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SEC (none / 0) (#9)
by glanton on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 12:48:57 PM EST
is a great conference, no doubt.  But in this case Arkansas really got hooked up, you gotta admit.  In truth they were no more deserving than Purdue or Illinois, all three teams fit the rubric of also-rans.

I like the idea of forcing bubble teams from major conferences to do the play-in game.

Basketball aint what it used to be, there is lots of parity.  I am a dedicated UNC fan and I still think it's absolutely great for the game to facilitate mid-major gains so that there is more excitement in the Tourney.  Mid-majors have quite simply earned a chance to shine.  Schools like Arkansas ans Florida State and Illinois srart out with every possible advantage in terms of dollars, recruiting name brand power, scheduling possibilities etc.

There needs to be a consistent premium on rewarding teams that have stellar years, not teams that merely survive in big conferences.  Drexel REALLY got the shaft, as did Missouri State.  But hey, the committee's job is a difficult one, and on balance they do a fine job.  IMHO.

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Also ran ACC tems are ok though? (none / 0) (#12)
by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 01:30:49 PM EST
Tar Heels are going DOWN!!!

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be very careful now (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by a gilas girl on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 02:05:43 PM EST
darlin'

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Heh (none / 0) (#16)
by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 02:26:00 PM EST
I picked Duke to win its first round game.

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I'll take this one (none / 0) (#17)
by glanton on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 02:31:42 PM EST
No, BTD, Also-Ran ACC teams are not okay.  

That's the problem is that we can't have conversations like this unless everyone is willing to put loyalty to their own conferences, regions, and even individual teams aside and think about what is good for the game.  

Defining "also ran", of course, is infinitely tricky.  Arizona for example has so much ability it's scary, and it's no stretch to imagine Georgia Tech making the Elite Eight.  So one must be careful. And for the most part I think the committee is careful, and does a good job.  

Over the next couple of yuears I predict we're going to see a trend more and more towards avoiding loading up on middle of the pack teams from major conferences, whatever the conference, because such practices are being revealed as not good for the game.  

(And of course, you may be right about UNC.  They have gobs of talent, maybe the most talent, and I love them but they may also be the laziest great team in the field.  Well, either them or Wisconsin anyway.

What's great about this year is that no one team stands out head and shoulders.  In my mind it's easily conceivable for at least 13 teams to be left standing when all the smoke clears).

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What fun is that? (none / 0) (#18)
by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 02:42:09 PM EST


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Arizona? (none / 0) (#19)
by Peaches on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 02:53:07 PM EST
I cannot remain silent any longer. I mostly talk b-ball on some local blogs in MN. I don't think I am going to get much insight here at TL, but its NCAA time and its fun.

I'm a big 10 guy and believe me, the big 10 does it every year. Too many teams and most don't go anywhere. Its a big conference and way over-rated. Still, we manage a team or two each year that gets to the sweet 16. Ohio St and Wisconsin are this years teams. I'd be surprised if either goes much further. Purdue and Illinois have no business being in the tournament and Michigan St and Indiana are bubble schools at best this year. It is about money. The big ten schools bring in ratings and fill arenas.

But, the Pac 10 is also overrated, too. Arizona, Oregon and Stanford shouldn't be in the tournament either, but who would keep these names schools out. But, its always fun to watch these schools get upset - so there is that.

But, Lute gets matched up with Purdue in the first round (The MN gophers beat Purdue this year for God's sake). What a gift for the guy who has a story and brings in ratings. He survives one round. Scary? not this year.  

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