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I just don't understand this mentality (5.00 / 2) (#7)
by Jeff in Texas on Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 08:36:58 PM EST
Looking back???  There is STILL a war going on, our Constitutional liberties are being destroyed every single day, and there is another illegal war in the offing.  This is NOW and the very near future.  Looking back isn't the half of it.

And I guess I have to say what I said to anti-impeachment people back in January, who felt it would be a "distraction" from all the other things the Congressional Democrats needed to do-- what better things are they doing with their time?  Enforcing their own subpoenas?  Not so much.  Restoring habeas, or even trying to in such a way as to score political points and make the Republicans look bad?  Non.  Preventing abortions like the FISA "fix" from coming to the floor and passing?  Uh, no.  Defunding the war, or otherwise limiting Bush's warmaking ability?  Quite the opposite, in fact.  Opposing the run up to war with Iran?  Heck no, they are signing on to resolutions declaring acts of war on the part of Iran.

And so now you want the Congressional Democrats to focus on getting a Democrat in the White House in 2008.  Alrighty then.  How, if not by confronting this bunch of thugs at every turn?  And to what end, if the likely Democratic nominee more or less agrees with the worst of the Bush agenda, just not the execution of it?  Hillary likes a powerful executive.  Hillary will probably like to dispel any notion that she will go soft on "rogue states" like Iran.  And what makes you think that all the supposed political forces that make cowards of the Democrats now are going to change come January of 2009?  Will there not be a midterm election to think about?  Will there not be a second term to win for Hillary?  What on EARTH makes you think Hillary wants to be the President that "lost" Iraq?  This was the die that was cast when the Democrats first rolled on the Iraqi supplemental, and I said as much at the time.  The time to start forcing this administration's hand was IMMEDIATELY, because it was always going to take time.  Bush and the Republicans win by running out the clock.  The Democrats think they win, because the polls are telling them that they are going to have a landslide in 2008 as long as they keep their heads down and don't rock the boat-- but the joke is on them.  Their landslide will be a two or four year breather for the Republicans, during which time every chicken the Democrats have allowed to hatch since winning the majority will come home to roost.  And the point about Iran-Contra is dead on.  Look how much worse it was this time.  What do you think it will be like when the same criminals come back 2012???  

yup (5.00 / 2) (#9)
by Shahryar on Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 08:42:02 PM EST
14 months to go, plenty of time for something awful to happen, or a series of somethings

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