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If I follow you (none / 0) (#10)
by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 12:04:05 PM EST
you are saying that the fact that Hillary has been through it and has already been hit with the kitchen sink - hence her polling on "trustworthiness" - is a PLUS. Not a minus as Booman says.

Maybe. I could see an argument that the others could protect themselves better.

My point is that we are ignoring the problem - the Media - when we decide to criticize Clinton on this.

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I thought she was saying she doesn't want (none / 0) (#11)
by oculus on Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 12:10:29 PM EST
to hear the same-oh, same-oh stuff about Clinton; so let's nominate Obama or Edwards so we get to hear something new.    

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I said both (none / 0) (#13)
by Maryb2004 on Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 12:22:06 PM EST
I should run for office.


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Triangulator! (none / 0) (#14)
by oculus on Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 12:25:13 PM EST


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But (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by Maryb2004 on Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 12:30:59 PM EST
if I hadn't pointed it out both of you might have gone on thinking I said what you each wanted to hear and my trustworthy factor might not have been diminished.  

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What part of the media (none / 0) (#12)
by Maryb2004 on Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 12:20:03 PM EST
am I ignoring?   When I say smear I mean from the media.  Nobody cares if you or BooMan smear a candidate.  


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ok, I'll give you this (none / 0) (#17)
by Maryb2004 on Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 01:04:05 PM EST
The Hillary story isn't being driven right now, and won't be driven for the next 6 weeks, by the reality of Hillary's stand or lack of stand on the issues.  It will be driven by the story that the media wants to tell.  And ultimately if there is a downturn in her trust factor from her perceived lack of stance on the issues, it won't be because she has less of a stand than the other candidates it will be because the media has decided to make her perceived lack of stand on the issues the story.  

BooMan wants to point to RFK.  Well, you can't discount the media story that went along with him.

He is, though, a good example of a politician that took a characteristic that had previously been portrayed as a character flaw (ruthless Bobby) and turned it into a positive for the media to sell (determined, strong, etc.).  

It remains to be seen if Hillary can do the same thing with her flaws.  

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