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from the article that because there are 1/2 as many dim AA kids in colleges than dim non-AA kids, that dim AA kids don't harm or have little effect on the college, then sure, infer away.

But that was not in any way the point of the article and in fact that is not ever even discussed in the article.

The point of the article, and the quote in discussion, is that many "select" students are elbowed aside, and, numerically, most of them are elbowed aside by by dim white kids with connections.

BTD chose to infer that that meant that dim AA kids have little effect on the colleges, and I chose to recognize, in a kinda humorous twist, to me anyway, that, from the quote, numerically, dim whites and Asians were underrepresented in the colleges and that dim black and Hispanics are over represented.

But I never said (or if I did, it was a poorly worded comment, I'm too lazy to actually go back and look at the comments) that my point was the point of the article or the quote.

You and BTD seem to think, adamantly, that your inference is the point of the article.

That humors me also.

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WTF (none / 0) (#74)
by squeaky on Fri Oct 05, 2007 at 07:07:38 PM EST
A degree from a selective college can open many doors for a talented young person from a humble background. But rather than promoting social mobility.....

Affirmative Action is the program that promotes social mobility. You do not have to be an Einstein to get that from the article which is pro "social mobility".

More from Peter Schmidt:

Amazon.com: Creating a Class: College Admissions and the Education ...
Rather than serving as routes to social mobility, many college admission ... Are Winning the War over College Affirmative Action by Peter Schmidt $16.47 ...


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We must be reading different articles. (none / 0) (#75)
by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Oct 05, 2007 at 07:10:39 PM EST
This is the one BTD linked to.

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Google Search (none / 0) (#76)
by squeaky on Fri Oct 05, 2007 at 07:21:41 PM EST
Affirmative Action + Social Mobility brings up a quote from the aurhor Peter Schmidt. The very same author of the linked article.

His position, which seems obvious to me, but obscure to you, is that "Rich White Kids Are Winning the War Over College Affirmative Action". The subtitle or his book Color and Money

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Oh fer cripe's sake, there you go. (none / 0) (#78)
by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Oct 06, 2007 at 12:10:34 AM EST
Everyone else here is talking about the linked article - the actual subject of the thread - and you're talking about something completely different that you googled.

What a waste of time.


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Are You Drunk? (none / 0) (#79)
by squeaky on Sat Oct 06, 2007 at 12:36:46 AM EST
Everyone else here is talking about the linked article - the actual subject of the thread - and you're talking about something completely different that you googled.

Peter Schmidt, the author of the thread's linked article,  wrote the book "Color and Money: How Rich White Kids Are Winning the War over College Affirmative Action." which is the subject of this thread,
even if you refuse to believe it.

You have argued that Peter Schmidt's linked article above has nothing to do with Affirmative Action. That couldn't be more wrong. And you complain that my mention of his book is unrelated to the subject of this thread, when it is the exact same topic of this thread is simply nuts.

About the book:

The elite U.S. universities remain "bastions of privilege" in spite of decades of affirmative action and a stated commitment by schools to diversify their campuses, says the author of a new book on college admissions.
In "Color and Money: How Rich White Kids Are Winning the War over College Affirmative Action," higher education journalist Peter Schmidt argues that many select schools give admissions preference to white applicants and that, while people resent race-conscious admissions, they ignore admissions based on wealth or influence. "As it stands now, if anyone is winning the war over college affirmative action, it's wealthy white kids," says Schmidt, a deputy editor of the Chronicle of Higher Education.

link

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Oh, and (none / 0) (#80)
by squeaky on Sat Oct 06, 2007 at 12:46:50 AM EST
Here is more of a waste of time for you Peter Schmidt's blog about the subject at hand The Other Affirmative Action


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