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ooops (none / 0) (#5)
by tnthorpe on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 06:17:10 PM EST
from the DOJ website:
The Attorney General represents the United States in legal matters generally and gives advice and opinions to the President and to the heads of the executive departments of the Government when so requested.

It looks like he does interpret law after all. At least everyone in Washington thinks he does and expects him to.

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heh (1.00 / 1) (#6)
by jimakaPPJ on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 07:10:20 PM EST
What he does is give advice.

Advice is non-binding.

Ask your attorney.

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A legal opinion (5.00 / 1) (#9)
by tnthorpe on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 09:33:24 PM EST
from the AG allows things to happen. It is more than simply "advice." Jeesh, I mean you can't torture without permission even in America.

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A "legal" opinon?? (1.00 / 0) (#19)
by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 09:21:25 AM EST
It may be an opinion, and it may be legal, but it is not a "legal opinion."

Plainer. It could be an opinion that's not legal.

Let Congress get off its collective behinds and pass some laws rather than posturing.

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pathetic (5.00 / 0) (#31)
by tnthorpe on Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 12:25:03 PM EST
semantic dodges when what you need to do is realize you got it wrong, again.

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One more time (1.00 / 0) (#34)
by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 01:08:47 PM EST
It is the SC who interprets our laws.

The AG can issue all of the opinions he wants. Some may be legal, some may not.

But his job is run the DOJ and, sometimes, advise the President. The DOJ supposedly enforces the laws passed by Congress and held to be legal by the SC.

If the DOJ can show that a law has been broken, they can arrest and bring to court.

The Judicial Branch can then choose to let the person be tried, or cut him loose.

You only want Mukasey to declare waterboarding torture because it suits your politics to attack the war. I can think of several areas in which you would be very unhappy if the AG declared something illegal.

Stop you double standards and try some logic.

BTW - The President has several other lawyers who also advise him.

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oh brother (5.00 / 1) (#37)
by tnthorpe on Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 01:17:49 PM EST
get a clue, will you?

Read the torture memos and stop torturing me with your inanities.

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hehe (1.00 / 0) (#15)
by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 09:10:01 AM EST
It looks like he does interpret law after all. At least everyone in Washington thinks he does and expects him to.

Will someone have the Supreme Court call home??

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read (5.00 / 1) (#30)
by tnthorpe on Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 12:24:04 PM EST
the torture memos.
The opinion sought is the basis for a change in practice.

This is simply how it works.

Try hard, you can figure it out.

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Try harder (1.00 / 0) (#35)
by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 01:09:56 PM EST
Let Congress do its job.

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hehe (1.00 / 0) (#36)
by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 01:11:08 PM EST
If you believe everything that's on a website, stay away from LGF's...

:-)

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The law is clear (none / 0) (#40)
by tnthorpe on Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 02:32:04 PM EST
even if Mukasey is not. Bush is breaking the law for his own political ends, ends you support and law breaking you encourage. Mukasey ought not be confirmed: Bush ought to be impeached.

In a frighteningly lucid and surgical essay The Vanishing Point geographer Derek Gregory describes the war on terror as a "war on law", or a "war through law" - through the suspension of law. While emergency is the state's tactic it is ultimately the law itself that is the most critical site of political struggle, he contends. If I recall correctly, Derek explains how Guantanamo Bay was established as a purposefully ambiguous political space camouflaged in the folds of legal uncertainty.
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The Bush Administration's ambiguation of the clarity of the prohibition on torture speakes directly to its abysmal moral character. That you want to pretend such a policy on their part doesn't exist is simply counter to the evidence. Read the torture memos, which, you will note, were not written by the SC.

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Just curious (none / 0) (#47)
by jimakaPPJ on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 05:11:45 PM EST
why do you describe Derek Gregory as a "geographer" as if that gave him any special insight?? Shall I call up some thoughts on pro gun airline pilots and their thoughts on terrorism??

So far in this thread all I have seen is comments that the law is clear. Plus, the Tokyo trials, etc.

This is all BS of the big steaming stinky piles of it.

If the law is clear, make it clearer. If the Tokyo trials were based on law, why isn't the question, will you enforce that law??

The answer is that it must not be law, and the Demos don't want to be clear because it doesn't suit their purpose, just as it doesn't suit the Left's purpose.  A reasonable person could resolve all of this quickly and simply.

If Congress makes waterboarding illegal, will you enforce the law?

That's the $64.00 question. Not what he "thinks."

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