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If you walk the walk (5.00 / 1) (#19)
by john horse on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 05:36:29 PM EST
cpinva,
re:"if you're going to torture, don't be a wuss about it."

Can't agree with you more.  When asked directly if waterboarding is torture, Bush evades the question.  Guiliani says he is not sure.  This is BS.  

They both know that it is torture but they lack the courage to say so.  If you are going to walk the walk you need to talk the talk.  What a bunch of wimps.

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::Enough:: crap from these psychos (none / 0) (#20)
by Edger on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 06:29:17 PM EST
Enhanced Interrogation Methods? No, The Word Is "Torture"
No matter how much lipstick and rouge we smear on the face of this war no matter how we attempt to  dress up the evil and bestial acts that have been performed in its unholy name, it still has the hideous countenance of an evil swine from hell.

It is an illegal war, begun and conducted under false pretenses, by a group of criminal liars and thieves in the United States Government, abetted by a cowardly congress who abrogated their constitutional duties in exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign funds and furthered by a complaisant press that ignored their obligation to remain independent from government, from their sponsors and report the facts.  
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There is no such animal as extraordinary rendition, nor do I know of the existence of any beasts called enhanced interrogation methods.

The first is kidnapping, it is illegal, a felony and the second word is torture, its meaning is clear:

NOUN:

  1. Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion.
  2. An instrument or a method for inflicting such pain.
  2. Excruciating physical or mental pain; agony: the torture of waiting in suspense.
  3. Something causing severe pain or anguish.

Torture is illegal in this country, a felonious act, it is illegal in the world at large, according to several conventions that we are legally bound by. Anyone committing torture, causing it to be committed, directing its commission, or training others in its techniques is guilty, guilty of war crimes, of crimes against humanity and crimes against "Nature's God.

The people who lied us into this war are not statesmen, nor are they patriots acting out of a misguided love of country, as I have heard in some quarters. They are murderers, murderers, modern day Nazis or Fascists if you prefer, cold dispassionate sociopaths, heinous criminals, without conscience, without mercy, without humanity.



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