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Please explain (4.50 / 2) (#11)
by scribe on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 03:47:16 PM EST
why there need to be 60 votes to move the bill forward. By placing a hold, he's withholding unanimous consent, and without that nothing moves, right?

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It is an informal filibuster (5.00 / 1) (#13)
by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 04:04:06 PM EST
Just like a filibuster, a hold can be defeated by 60 votes.

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So he's "defunded" (5.00 / 1) (#16)
by Edger on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 04:49:43 PM EST
a capitulation? And the repugs now own it?

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heh (5.00 / 2) (#17)
by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 05:07:45 PM EST
Yes indeed. This is a model.

the Power of Doing Nothing.

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Forget the 60 votes. (none / 0) (#19)
by Edger on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 05:16:17 PM EST
All we need now is The 100th Monkey.

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Ahem.... Nancy? (none / 0) (#20)
by Edger on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 05:17:16 PM EST


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Yes, well (none / 0) (#24)
by Edger on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 05:32:36 PM EST
The monkeys who didn't learn are extinct now. ;-)

Tap, tap, tap. Nancy?

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But the Army (none / 0) (#31)
by NMvoiceofreason on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 10:14:19 PM EST
of the 12 monkeys will rule the world.

(Bruce Willis film reference)

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did you (none / 0) (#27)
by taylormattd on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 06:10:38 PM EST
see this? It looks like Reid is moving full steam ahead despite the hold, and will bring it up for a vote in mid-November.

Question: can Leahy derail this by simply declining to schedule Judiciary Committee hearings? My understanding is that it is being referred to the Judiciary Committee next.

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The only precedent I can think of (none / 0) (#28)
by andgarden on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 06:16:40 PM EST
for party leadership ignoring the objections of members of the same party is in the case of civil rights legislation. (By which I mean an official objection like a hold) I've disagreed with Reid in the past, but this is the only example I can think of where he has decided to ignore the standard operations of the Senate for political expediency. I expect better from him.

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We derail Reid (none / 0) (#30)
by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 10:03:15 PM EST
IF it is true.

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