First you have no more information as to his innocence as I do to his guilt. We both know he was arrested for aggravated battery, a fairly serious charge. Somehow I don't see the police just snatching him off the street.

You ignored my comment in which I said he shouldn't have held illegaly.

And no where in my comment did I forgive those who caused/contributed to this mess.

Tell me, Bill. Why do you make up such claims when it is so easily demonstratable that you have made them up?

And no, someone holding a Green card for 13 years doesn't have to learn english, but that is a requirement for citizenship. Somehow I don't think he really takes the idea of being a citizen very seriously.

My points were, and remain, that we have a growing number of people within the country who cannot communicate to the government, and who, based on this example, are not trying to learn because they live in a fairly insular ghetto.

At the beginning of the 20th century this led to the dependence on the Mafia for justice. We see it now forming in various groups who demand political obedience for "represntation." Neither case is good for the person or the country.

As for your personal problem with the time involved, with your wife's son and his wife, I have no idea as to why it takes so long, but would guess it is partly because all of the resources spent on illegals.